Does Eminem-producer take over Eminem-rapper? The conversation between a friend, producer and hype man Mr.Porter and a Detroit battle rapper who beat Eminem on-screen Marv Won took that unexpected turn in the first episode of their new podcast “You Said What?”.
Mr. Porter: The way Em produces… when he started touching the drum machine I felt like it was better…
Marv Won: See, I disagree.
Mr. Porter: Well, but how?! When he started touching the joint we got like from “8 mile” up!
Marv Won: I’m a very selfish fan. I didn’t want you yo evolve, I wanted you to be the artist that I had fell in love with…
Mr. Porter: Oh, you mean, you didn’t want Em on his own beat!
Marv Won: No. Because I know from watching you and from doing it myself to a certain degree, I know how much it takes to create the music and then create the art that goes on the music. I know how much that takes. And for somebody of his level, especially when I was really into words, you’re killing the shit. I wanted you to just be that. I think it’s crazy because I think it robs you of certain things. Because I think you get comfortable. To this day I’ve never heard Eminem on a DJ Premier beat. That’s fucking wild. And I’m not saying, like, business-wise, if it don’t make sense – it don’t make sense. I’m saying as a fan. Like, damn!
Mr. Porter: I see what you mean. Even at his height, the time when we ran shit in a sense, I wish it had happened. I had a cool beat, I was like. “Urgh, if you just rapped over it!”. But you, what happened is… and we’ll ask him, we’ll get him on here and we’ll ask him, but from my perspective, and maybe he’ll feel different, I think he just started having so much fun making beats. You get lost in it. And Em, you know, he gets into some shit and he’ll keep going. And he’ll keep messing with it. But then he becomes a perfectionist and you lose the fun. It starts becoming work. I wonder if that’s what happened, I gotta ask him. But from what I saw, he’s got to the point where he just loved making beats. I was like, man, give me that patterns to rap over! Because, you know, we used to have ¼ but then it was him going into the thing and you know what happened, he’ll quantize the beat and it’ll work, and it’s like, “Oh, I fuck with that”. You know, what you do on a PC or a sound machine…
Marv Won: Y’all don’t get y’all credit. D12 doesn’t get its credit. Y’all were a little bit before y’all time.
It is refreshing to see two respectful professionals going into such detail when discussing Eminem as a producer. And even more exciting to catch the glimpse of promise from Mr.Porter to bring Marshall to this new podcast of his. “You Said What!” is a new space to watch and you make yourself a favour and watch it in its entirety on Mr.Porter’s channel.
Meanwhile, here is the segment about Eminem:
